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Model: Karamilk right before 2009-5932

Yes, it's real blood. They are 18 gauge needles. If you look closely they go in out and then in and out again. She giggled through most of it.

This image has been accepted to the Rochester Erotic Arts Festival March 26-28 2010

This Piece has been accepted to the Seattle Erotic Art Festival April 30 - May 2 2010
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kakosi Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I see it as art but it's a dangerous kind of art to do with skin infection and nerve damage a real possibility, even if antiseptic and sterile needles are used.  Sure there are people who enjoy self harm but that doesn't mean it's harmless.  

I know that all the bdsm practitioners will say I'm wrong and I don't understand the rush, but I do understand completely.  As I said at the top, I can view this as interesting art but I also see the person and know this doesn't come from a place of self-love or confidence. It comes from a need to feel because there's something broken that can't be described in any other way than inflicting pain.  
JimDuvall Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Professional Photographer
You're not a medical professional. And making up medical risks on the internet is a large part of what makes it drivel.

Your emotional ractions to this work are all valid. But your justifications are BS. Try just living with your emotions for what they are.
kakosi Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
You're making a lot of assumptions.  Infection from skin injury is in medical terms a real possibility, any skin piercing or trauma that draws blood risks introduction of MRSA and a variety of skin borne bacteria and damage to nerves.  Trying to pretend otherwise is odd but I understand that the BSDM community do a lot of pretending their practices can cause no harm.  As for my justifications being BS, that is your opinion but I really don't care much for the opinion of someone who'll let another person do themselves harm while taking photos of it for personal gain or titillation.
JimDuvall Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014  Professional Photographer
You forgot to mention Ebola. You could get Ebola from looking at this image. Seriously you could get a skin infection just as easily playing in your yard or a park and getting a scratch on a bush. None of you assumptions about the mental state of the model before during or after the shoot are correct. If you could make a diagnosis like that after looking at a picture of someones torso, you should be teaching in a university.
kakosi Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
You're being ridiculous now.  

And clearly you don't know the first thing about infection...any piercing is potentially damaging let alone that sort of extensive piercing...but then again you're not the pincushion here.

Defend self harm all you like, it doesn't make it healthy and it doesn't help the victim.
JimDuvall Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Professional Photographer
I see no other way to treat your argument. "Could", "Potentially" are things you could put in front of anything regarding this photograph. It "could" ruin her chances of becoming president of the United States. The real question is "will it?" And the odds of it causing any of your dire consequences are nil.
kakosi Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
So self harm is ok if she evades any long term illness from it.  OK with that argument other forms of torture are also ok.  She has a mental illness where she enjoys pain and you're enabling her, end of story. As for her future health, it all depends on how far her desire to harm herself escalates.
xx-kittymeowmeow-xx Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i like certain kinda pain too does that make me crazy
JimDuvall Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Professional Photographer
No, in fact the new DSM V says you are not crazy.
Bracey100 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Its beautiful....but fucking OUCH!
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